Gary and Ant are two great guys who like me love football. They love it so much they decided to talk about it a lot and started their podcast What A Ball Ache. It's a podcast I have enjoyed listening to regularly.
So when Ant got in touch and asked me to come on and talk about gambling harm and it's relationship with sport, particularly football, amongst other things I was really excited.
What I didn't realise was that Ant was going to use the podcast to share his own experiences of gambling harm. I feel incredibly privileged to have been part of this recording.
Well done Ant, top man!